Councillor Curran declared a non-pecuniary
interest in relation to this item due to his high level of interest
in the scheme.
Julian Kingston (Build the Lenox) introduced a
presentation. The key points to note were:
The history of the Lenox
- The Lenox was the first of a fleet
of 30 ships built in the 17th century.
- It was one of a new class of ships,
the construction of which turned Deptford in to a maritime
‘power house’.
- The ship took 60 men a year to
build.
- It had a 125 foot keel, weighed 1100
tons and took 2300 oak trees to build.
- The Lenox project team proposed to
build a replica of the ship at the eastern edge of Convoys Wharf in
the double dry docks.
- A ship called the Hermione had been
build in the town of Rochefort in Western France. The area had suffered
from a decades of decline and disrepair. However, the construction
of the Hermione turned around the fortunes of the town.
- Approximately 800,000 people were in
Rocheford for the launch of the
Hermione.
- Similar projects had been created in
Gothenburg and in Spain.
- The UK had been good a preserving
old ships but not good at building replicas, such as the
Lenox.
- The Lenox project created
significant potential for a major heritage construction project.
There would also be the potential to launch the ship.
- The project could be managed to create a network
of ships so that the ships from Sweden, France and Spain could
visit Deptford and the Lenox could visit other ports in the
world.
- The building of the Lenox had the potential to
make Deptford a major tourist destination.
Current plans
- Convoys Wharf had
been bought by a major developer called Hutchison Whampoa, who
intended to build several thousand flats.
- Hutchison Whampoa had used the Lenox project as
part of their planning application, however, they had not engaged
with the Lenox project team in any meaningful way.
- The western wharf had been proposed by the
developer as the location for the building project.
- However, the best location would be on the
eastern side of the site.
- Processes could be put in place to ensure that
visitors would not be endangered on the construction
site.
- If the proposal to build the Lenox went ahead on
the Western edge of the site, it would be difficult for the project
to become self sufficient because it would be harder to attract
footfall from Greenwich.
- The project would create training and employment
opportunities, as well as the potential for workers to develop
highly skilled roles.
- The Lenox would require 2300 trees
to build. The project team would look to source these in the most
sustainable way. The group had been in discussion in with the High
Speed2 project – which had agreed, in principle, to provide
the trees.
- The group had also had discussions about the use
of managed woodlands to provide the timber needed for the
project.
- The group would like the Council to make the support
for the Lenox project conditional to the planning permission for
the Convoys Wharf scheme.
In response to questions from the Committee,
the representatives of Build the Lenox advised:
- The Lenox project had been
registered as a community interest company. A core group of people
were managing the project but more than 300 people were involved,
including a number of local historians and heritage
specialists.
- Discussions about funding had taken
place with the Crossrail team. Further
discussions needed to happen with the banks, and big businesses in
the region.
- The team would take on a
professional fundraiser once the project reached a ‘point of
credibility’.
- When the construction started,
finances would be raised by charging people for entrance to the
build site. This would allow the project to become self sufficient
in a short space of time.
- It was anticipated that the Lenox
would become part of a local tourism strategy, linking the project
with the Cutty Sark and the national
maritime museum.
- The team hoped that the project
would have a similar income to the Cutty Sark.
- The management group would tender
out the work to be done to other companies. Part of the tendering process would be ensuring
that local labour and training opportunities would be made
available.
- The planning requirements the
project needed to fulfil, to become conditional to granting the
project’s planning consent, were vague.
- The developers had been reluctant to
meet with the Lenox team.
- The team would welcome support from
the committee to enable the project to overcome the limitations of
the planning system and require that the developer take forward the
Lenox project.
- Kevin Reed, the Mayor of
London’s planner had indicated that it was difficult to
engage with Hutchison Whampoa. The developer also claimed that it
could not make sufficient profit from the development if the
planning conditions were too strict.
- The reason for wanting to keep the
Lenox on the east of the site was that the most expensive flats
were due to be built there. It was felt that the developer did not
want the building of the Lenox to spoil the view.
- The Sayes Court Garden was a
separate, but linked part of the heritage at the site.
In response to questions from the Committee,
Brian Regan (Planning Policy Manager) advised members that:
- The application from the developers
of Convoys Wharf was currently with the Council, it did not include
proposals that would facilitate the building of the Lenox as it was
envisioned by the Lenox project team.
- There was government guidance on
what could be considered a legal planning condition, including
requirement that the decision is reasonable, related to development
and able to be implemented.
- The date for the decision to be made
at planning committee had not been agreed.
Whilst supportive of the scheme, the Committee
agreed that they would ensure that they kept ‘an open
mind’ about the development.
Members urged the Lenox team to ensure that it
made all Councillors aware of the project.
Resolved: to note the report and presentation
given at the meeting and refer the following Committee views to
Mayor and Cabinet:
- On 11 July 2013, the
Sustainable Development Select Committee considered a report
entitled Build the Lenox and received a
presentation from members of the Build the Lenox
group.
- The
Committee recommends that the Mayor write to
Li Ka-Shing, Chairman of the Board of
Hutchison Whampoa to urge a meeting between the developer and the
Build the Lenox group.
- The Committee
recommends that a review be carried out by planning officers to
determine what support can be given to the Build the
Lenox group to assist in achieving the Lenox
vision.
- The Committee
acknowledges the potential lasting benefits the Build
the Lenox project might bring to the borough, including the
employment, heritage, tourism, training and education initiatives
it would help to create. The Committee also acknowledges that the
project could help to create an iconic destination for tourists
from around the world.
- The Committee
acknowledges the success of similar projects in regenerating towns
and cities across Europe.
- The Committee urges
the Mayor to work jointly with the office of the Mayor of London
and the London Assembly to support the project.
- The Committee
welcomes efforts by the Build the Lenox team to encourage the
builders of the L’Hermione in
Rochefort, France to visit the borough
and share their experiences of building a replica
warship.
- The Committee notes
the relevance of sections of the Council’s core strategy,
specifically section 4B of the spatial strategy for regeneration
areas, which relate to community well being.