Welcome from the Chair
Noise issues in the local Area
Addressing your noise issues –
Charlene Noel Neighbourhood Community Safety Officer
Cllr Stamirowski Introduced
Charlene: Charlene Noel knows her field outside and in,
she is fantastic officer and is here to talk to us about what
Lewisham can and can’t do as an authority around noise
department used to be called the neighbourhood community safety
service now we are the Crime, Enforcement and Regulation Service.
The service has meshed as one team with anti-social behaviour,
licencing, noise nuisance and trading standards. Anything that
comes in around those areas our officers look into, our officers
are now extremely busy.
The borough is cut
into 4 quadrants, I manage the west side of the borough which
covers Catford South, Forest Hill Perry Vale, and Rushey Green. I
know Catford south well I grew up here.
I am here to talk to you about noise nuisance
and what we do. Historically we had a noise nuisance team however,
because of the cuts – the services have all been amalgamated
so we now only have a noise nuisance team that is available 9-5. We
realise most of the noise nuisance cases coming in at night and
that there is an issue there.
How do we manage
this? We have to prove as a council that a noise nuisance is
classed as a statutory nuisance. Most of the parties that happen
tend to be a one offs - so what we would do, is contact the
residents and warn them about etiquette and behaviour of future
events. If it is ongoing noise then our offers will go out at night
and investigate. If it is proven to be ongoing, we will serve the
repeat offender with an abatement notice. If they breach that
notice, we will take legal action. That abatement notice lasts for
Now, in the summer
months, complaints go up as there are more bbq’s, parties,
weddings etc. The noise nuisance team
will be working more night shifts through the
The service is
constantly under review, we might need to change the service back
to having officers working at night full time.
What we have found is that noise nuisance in
the borough as a whole has dropped, but this could be because
residents are more aware that we don’t have a night service
so make fewer complaints about one off situations. Lewisham
councils was one of the first to join their services together.
Other boroughs are now following us, i.e. Southwark and Greenwich.
That is the way we stand at the moment.
Thank you Charlene.
Q. Apart from
parties what are the other major causes of noise that your team
will come out for?
Mostly mechanical, car
alarms house alarms any noise at all, if it constitutes a statutory
nuisance under the ‘noise act’ we have to go out and
The major problem of noise
we suffer from are car alarms, they are from bus drivers who park
on our road, calendar road. It ...
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Planning, how does it effect us and how can the community effect planning
Planning in your local
area – how it works! Lewisham Planning and Enforcement
Manager, Michael Johnson.
Structure of planning service – within resources and regen
directory. Headed by Janet Senior and Emma Talbot, it includes
development managers, design and conservation manager enforcement
team and a Business support team.
The Planning team carries out the Council’s town planning
functions. Development plans, strategy, neighbourhood plan and so
on. 4000 planning aps each year. General planning aps, new builds
extensions etc. applications for conservation consent and so on.
Apps within conservation areas are subject to special
considerations and dedicated policies. We also have Planning
Committees, 3 planning committees and a strategic planning
committee. They deal with things that have had 3 or more objections
from the community, or larger applications, or if an application
has been referred by a councillor. These have to be decided within
a nationally decided timescale, small within 8 weeks, larger within
13. Most are decided within these time periods.
All applications are available for viewing on the council website.
Comments can be posted on the web, gives individuals to be notified
by developments that affect their area either by property, road or
applications submitted within a period. People likely to be
affected directly are sent a letter details of the applications and
where to send their comments/objections. There are notification
procedures and officers do take further inspections. They are also
advertised by local notices, the developer will put up the signs.
The Council are responsible for conservation area signs and larger
I am not a neighbourhood planning expert. In general, introduced by
the localism act 2011, where local communities can influence
planning policy and process for an area. When adopted a
neighbourhood plan becomes part of a statutory document.
Q. Danby road, ongoing issue of an ongoing
development of a carwash – what’s happening?
A. Familiar with the breach. The enforcement team
are on the verge of serving an enforcement notice against that
unauthorised development. Part of the issue was around gathering
the evidence. One of the issues was reporting your concerns to the
local council, we had received complaints from neighbours but you
need to document actual incidents. And diarise it. Thank you for
doing this - We are at a point now when we have the evidence and
are able to serve an enforcement notice. Serving the notice
isn’t the end of the story – they have a right to
appeal which will go to the Secretary of State. You will be made
aware if this happens so you are able to raise your concerns.
Cllr Stamirowski commented that it had
taken a long time, residents are frustrated, planning law is very
complicated I know it is frustrating,
Q. Question was raised with Michael from the
Culverley Green RA about a property on Penerly Road. Discussion was had around that
A. what we can take action on and something Michael
is looking into, is serving a section 215 notice, an untidy land
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Ella Roberta Family Foundation - Research and Education into Childhood Asthma.
Ella Roberta Family Foundation -
Hello everyone. I am here to simply
introduce myself and the work of the Foundation. Feel free to ask
questions after. Ella Roberta Family Foundation was set up by
myself and Dr Wallace from Great Ormond Street Hospital, after my
eldest Daughter Ella passed away from asthma. We still to this day
do not really know why she passed away, this was one of the reasons
that that Dr Wallace felt we should set up a foundation. There were
a few issue for him as he worked for great Ormond Street. My late
daughter was incredibly passionate about the local area, she was
born here, she went to Holbeach school, she went to Lewisham
Hospital, she was in the hospital over 40 times. She was a server
at St Swithern’s Church, her whole life was about Hither
Green, Catford, Lewisham, He felt it was only fitting that if we
were setting up a foundation, it should be in Lewisham and Lewisham
Children should benefit from the foundation.
We have the support of Lewisham
Hospital and I work very closely there with the doctors. We are
looking to work with medical students at the hospital and hopefully
to go into local schools to raise awareness about asthma.
aim to I work with doctors, not used to speaking to community, I am
used to talking to doctor and speak to them about doctors. Sadly I
am very medicalised now. There are many issues regarding
Ella’s case, this is a tool kit that the doctors and I are
why I do what I do
Out of every class in London 3
children have asthma, out of every school 12 children a year die in
London from asthma. We were at an asthma event last week, in this
day and age no child should die from asthma. No one should die from
asthma. My daughter was incredibly sever. Controlling it was a real
problem, most people die from mild asthma, such as out of date
inhalers, not going for their reviews and check-ups going to their
GP at any sign of a problem. It is the no 1 childhood illness.
Lewisham has one of the worst asthma rates in the UK. The hospital
is overrun with children with asthma. 10000 a year just on spacers
part of the inhaler…
Ella’s case came to the notice of Jocelyne Coburn, a human
rights lawyer, her interest was personal, she had it herself. She
was very interested in the pollution levels. The EU has certain
limits we should not be going over. We don’t know if the GOVT
will keep to those or do something different. There is an ongoing
case where the GOVT has been breaching these levels. Nitrogen
dioxide levels are very high locally.
A consultation is going on now.
Please fill it in to do with the south circular around pollution
levels. Basically to get your support. I have support for friends
of the earth. There ...
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Healthwatch in Lewisham there are 4 Lewisham based trustees that
oversee the work of Healthwatch Lewisham
there are information flyers. Was established by the 2012 Health
and Social care act. Network of 152 local Healthwatchs. Lewisham
Commissions the Healthwatch function in Lewisham. It is an
We are here to engage with Lewisham residents. We want to hear your
views about what your concerns and experiences are on health and
social care - we take your views seriously, we take these back to
commissioners of health and social care services. The other aspect
of the service is the NHS complaints advocacy service, this can be
really challenging for people we are here to provide you with
independent advice and help making complaints. Our priorities are
largely determined by you. Issues about access to service, issues
around mental health and issues for children and young
Access to services especially GP services is a common problem, so
that is even more of a problem if you are part of a community that
doesn’t speak English, or have disabilities, we have spoken
to a number of communities about their experiences, raising
awareness among children around mental health issues, we have been
working with homeless people and food banks around the barriers
We have a variety of hubs or stalls,
usually in GP services, Lewisham market, Peoples Day, a member of
staff or Healthwatch volunteers are
there if you want to share your experiences of health and social
care. Unless we hear from your we can’t make change.
One of the things we also do is worked in partnership with local
partners and commissioners and other Healthwatches. Promote
engagement opportunities, workshops for young people. Call us with
your comments, invite us to your event, if you are a community
group, or resident association we are always happy to come along
with our stall, we have surveys related to health and social care
issues and we have focus groups. If you sign up to the email list,
you can be kept fully informed we also have a range of volunteering
opportunities, we take this very seriously and you can really
benefit from this. We have a dedicated community engagement officer
for Lewisham Marzena. There are other engagement officers as well.
You can contact us via our website on twitter and
Take any questions
Q. I think it’s great work you are doing. The
powers that be you mentioned – who do you work with and
report to? Is it the CCG or is it Public Health? Do you have powers
to ensure that the recommendations in your reports are
A. We share widely with the borough providers CCG
all reports are in public domain. We work very closely with all. We
are there as a critical friend, we don’t have regulatory
powers. Our MO is to be that critical friend, challenge
constructively and fairly, you supply us with the evidence that we
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Community Updates including - Corbett Shutter Art Project
Shutter art Patricio
The Sandhurst Parade Shutter Art Project was funded by the Catford
I am Anglo-Argentine, I have been given an impossible job to try
and please everybody to create to shutter art projects on Sandhurst
I do public art, I don’t do graffiti, I settled in the north
of the borough I have been here 20 years since graduating from
Goldsmiths College. I have been working and developing strategy to
make art in the street that generates a sense of improvement.
Doesn’t mean everyone will like it, but they get a sense of
the urban space and how we related to each other. The same way when
you see a broken window, people feel entitled to keep on breaking
however, when people see care and perfection people react
differently. That is what public art is …it’s about
how a group of people can work together to generate a sense of
We don’t go away and say hey,
here is the art work, we follow these plans this is the process
that we work to:
UNDERSTAND The space, who
uses it? why? what works? what fails?
Users Managers Stakeholders Experts To
IDENTIFY constraints eg materials, budget, health and safety,
IMAGINE Creative directions, Production, options, Media, this is the hardest thing to come
up with the ideas,
Users, Managers, Stakeholders, Experts, To refine
PRODUCE Print, video, events, ceramics, murals
Users, Managers, Stakeholders, Experts, To evaluate
again constantly talking to the community otherwise we never learn
while things work better than others.
Fabricio showed pictures of the many of the works he is most know
for, including the shirt and ties in Deptford, the cow bins in New
cross, 1000 sunflowers planted in New Cross. They might not see it
as art but everyone will see it as an improvement.
We work with youth at risk, voting to resolve the conflicts,
anxieties about the environment and the complexities of
environmental issues. Turned a water tank into a giant screw. (all
pics available on the presentation document
We were commissioned by the
Corbett Residents Association.
These are some of the problems with the parade we are trying to
resolve: Visually cluttered, Want to bring the shop owners
together, Not very appealing at the
moment, Doesn’t feel like a
We are doing 2 shops but
hoping to enlarge it start with 2 and move it on…
The brief for the shutters was: Communities coming together, Recognize
diversity, Preserve the beauty of the Corbett
Estate, Capture the spirit of the area.
Easier said than done
The agreed themes were around Greening, unity, people
coming together, the night.
We took the ideas to the Corbett Estate fun day we showed them all
the options and explained the concepts and over 75 people answered
the feedback. The most voted for one was eco planet. I’m not
surprised, it is the most simple and ...
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Bringing a local property back to life
Hayley Barton, Local Resident
- to talk to us about the empty
property on Glenfarg road.
This is an issues that we have been working with the empty
homes officer at the council. It has been empty for 7 years now,
the owner started doing a lot of work at the time, then ran out of
money, since that time the property is empty and deteriorating. A
really poor state of repair. It is quite a dangerous
The council has been in a lot of talks with the owner to
bring the house back to life although promised have been made no
progress has happened.
I live next door, so I have a vested interest in the property, and
from my perspective, to have to come home to this house is
depressing and horrible. I would live to see it bought back to
We had a little survey and a meeting with local neighbours. There is a lot of support in the
road to bring the property back to life. I have also spoken to the owner but
promises were made but nothing happened.
The result is that the next step is to encourage her to
make a difference, Nick is trying to get support for an
‘empty dwelling management order’, while the owner
keeps ownership the Council can step into her shoes for a time and
complete the renovations and let it out for affordable
ownership. The money invested in the property, would be paid back
through the rent. After 7 years she would get the property
That is the initiative if you can support me. There is a petition
at the back of the hall, please sign it on your way out.
Please make sure you sign that petition we really don’t want
empty homes as it is important.
Cllr Alan Smith who has something he
needs to say….
am going to say a few words about someone present in the room, we
have often not seen eye to eye over the years, but we have always
managed to get over it and work productively. Earlier on this
evening he said he was trying to make life easier for people, [ha
ha] I would dispute that [ha ha]! But quite right - you don’t
get anywhere without challenging the status quo. The person I am of
course talking about is Peter Ranken. He has made significant
progress for this area through the Archibald Corbett Society and
the wider community. As a result of that community work, our MP
Heidi wrote a letter, as a result of that letter he is no longer
‘Peter Ranken’, he is now ‘Peter Ranken –
MBE’ we would like to
Very many congratulations well deserved.
Peter Ranken: I would like to say that I am very humbled I have
been given this this is for all of you! You have been so supportive
of the ACS and the Healthy lifestyle Centre, it wouldn’t have
happened without all of you.
This is not for me it is for the whole community.
AOB Jeanette Kenyon, we had a meeting about fly-tipping in
March at the assembly which was a bit fractious.
We sat down after the meeting as a small group of concerned
residents from across the ward and we are going to do something
powerful. The CRA has set up an action group with will focus on fly
tipping, we have written the chair for the Public Rhelm and we are getting a group together to really
try and put it in place, it will be a Catford south initiative -
when we bid for money under this theme in the autumn, we would
appreciate your support!.
That’s it…I apologise if
we have had to keep pace up but we have to leave the building at a
Thank you all so much for coming this evening, really
appreciate it is one way you can really get involve, next one is in
October, thank you very much everyone safe journey home -