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Declarations of Interest pdf icon PDF 209 KB




Smoddy Sharp - 33-33a Dartmouth Road Forest Hill London SE23 3HN - 12th pdf icon PDF 221 KB

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In the matter of this application for a Temporary Event Notice,the Committee has considered all the relevant representations made by all parties.


The Committee has made the following determination to ensure the promotion of the licensing objectives in accordance with the provisions of the Secretary of State’s guidance and the principles of our Licensing Policy.


The Committee determined that the Temporary Event Notice be GRANTED to take place on 12th – 13th March 2022 from 20:00 – 03:00hrs



In coming to a determination, the Committee considered the following matters:


1    Members of the Committee noted the representations made by the Metropolitan Police. During a visit to the premises several breaches were found including:


·         CCTV not working and no record of previous recordings.

·         No incident book or log on the premises.

·         No signage to smoking area.

·         Special treatments unlicensed.


2.    The Police were concerned about the numbers attending the event. The application had originally been for 200 people; this was eventually reduced to 60. The Police would have preferred a maximum of 50. There were also concerns that although the TEN was for a 45th birthday party, tickets were being sold on the internet, and a DJ had been hired for a 90’s nostalgia event. This party had the potential to become a large event and could cause noise nuisance for local residents.


3.    Members of the Committee noted the representations made by the applicant. All issues raised by the Police had been addressed and photographic evidence provided namely:


·         CCTV was in working order in the areas required.

·         All signage relating to smoking and challenge 25 was up and visible.

·         An application for 200 people had been made in error and had been reduced to 60. The expectation was that there would not be any more than 50 people.

·         An incident book was available.


4.    In addition, members noted that the applicant had booked onto a WAVE training course as recommended by the Metropolitan Police. The applicant had managed successful TENs in the past without any issues.


5.    It was agreed that by granting the Temporary Event Notice, the four licensing objectives would be upheld.






2.1      The Chair welcomed all parties to the Licensing Committee. She introduced those present, and outlined the procedure to be followed for the meeting. She then invited the Crime Enforcement and Regulations Manager to introduce the application.


            Crime, Enforcement and Regulation Manager          


2.2     The Crime Enforcement and Regulations (CER) Manager said that members were being asked to consider an application for a Temporary Event Notice (TEN) for  Smoddy Sharp, 33/33a Dartmouth Road, Forest Hill, London SE23 3HN.She outlined the application and the current licenced activities. She said that representations had been received from P.C Sam Bobb of the Metropolitan Police in relation to the licensing objective of prevention of Crime and Disorder. 


2.3      The CER Manager then outlined the powers available to members when making their decision.




2.4      Mr Spencer said that Smoddy Sharp is a male grooming establishment. The business was set up approximately four years ago after he lost a brother to suicide. Then both he and his business partner lost their fathers. They wanted to provide a place where men could relax and address any mental health issues


2.5      Mr Spencer said that when they applied for the TEN, they mistakenly applied to host an event for 200 people. This was amended to 60 people. They did not need to reapply. He was grateful for the advice given by the Police regarding managing a safe event and all the points raised had been addressed. A number of TENs had been held at the premises in the past without any problems.


2.6      The issues raised by Police had been addressed as follows:


  • CCTV – This was in working order and photographic evidence had been provided.  The monitor had been turned off during the visit from the Police.
  • Attendees – Following advice from the Police, the applicant agreed that a smaller number of patrons should attend the event. Approximately 50 people could be managed.
  • Noise nuisance – Businesses were on both sides of the premises at the front. There were two residential properties at the back of the building. Management contacted residents when an event was due to take place and residents had their number if they experienced noise nuisance.
  • All signage as advised by the Police was displayed and visible.
  • Noise levels were kept to a minimum during events because there were no base speakers.
  • Eventbrite were managing the event so that numbers attending the party would be controlled.


2.7      Mr Spencer said that all the points of concern raised by the Metropolitan Police had been address and he asked members of the Committee to agree the application.


2.8      Councillor Brown asked for clarification about the event. Mr Spencer said the event to be held was a birthday party. Eventbrite would be managing it and the way by which attendees would be invited. The 90’s event had been created by Smoddy Sharp to host the party. The birthday party would have a 90’s themed music


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